Salsa remixes of popular songs

Discussion in 'Salsa Music' started by, Mar 16, 2017.

  1. terence

    terence Maestro 'Descarga' Cachao

    And that, sums up the major problem, of why the club scene, will eventually disintegrate, to the smaller scene it once was.

    I do not think that, the majority of dancers ( and teachers ) realise how much music is out there . The variety is beyond belief..
  2. salsamaniac4ever

    salsamaniac4ever Son Montuno

    I tried to listen to the songs on the webpage but I couldn't make it past the first 10 seconds. It's really painful to listen to. That sort of remixes has nothing to do with Afro-Cuban-Rhythms whatsoever. And I sincerely hope that those kind of remixes will never become popular in the larger Salsa scene. The reason why I dance is because of the music and not the other way around. And like @terence already stated there is soooooooo much music out there. Start researching and listening. It's almost next to impossible to get bored by the vast amount of Salsa tunes out there. Except you listen to the same 50 tracks over and over again.

    I live in Germany with Latin-American roots. A friend of mine who is teaching Salsa started in January this year to teach Salsa On2 directly to beginners. This approach is absolutely not common in Germany. And my part is to teach the music to the beginners so that they learn right from the start to understand and appreciate the music. And as a DJ I see it as my responsibility to expose the new dancers to all the variety out there. Of course I repeat songs because dancers also like to dance to songs they know. However, I also play every week tunes they never heard before (at least not from me). There is no need to expose them to non Salsa music. Either they start to like the music or they move on to the next dance style (e.g. WCS, Lindy-Hop etc). If they don't get into the music it's totally fine.

    Just my 2 cents ;)
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  3. Groove On

    Groove On Sonero

    You can just say arrangement - it's assumed that an arrangement is a version of a song. It's also crystal clear when you compare a remix to an arrangement.
  4. Groove On

    Groove On Sonero

    I also agree that I have yet to find an Afro-Latin remix that I really like. Though there are properly done arrangements of modern songs that are decent. (like the Mandingo cover/arrangement of Adele's 'Hello'). It's very pop Salsa but at least I can call it Salsa.
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  5. terence

    terence Maestro 'Descarga' Cachao

    How times have changed when, that's all there was..
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  6. DJ Yuca

    DJ Yuca El Sabroso de Conguero

    I started on the salsa scene about 10 years ago and in a very short space of time I was exposed to the phenomenon of salsa instructors playing contemporary r&b hits at salsa events, and salsa dancers hitting the floor to dance 'salsa' to such non-salsa, non-Latin tunes. In many cases the salsa dancers showed more enthusiasm than they did for any type of salsa music. I soon discovered that there is a name for this phenomenon ('salsa to r&b') and there was even a dedicated monthly 'salsa to r&b' night, which a hell of a lot of local salsa dancers attended. I even received criticism for not having or wanting to 'salsa' to such tunes! I even know of 2 non-local, very well-regarded salsa teachers (one from up north and one from London) who visited (separately) 'salsa to r&b' nights and thought the whole idea was wonderful!

    In fact, even on the more discerning parts of the salsa scene where r&b is not played, there have still been non-salsa tunes that have been absolutely massive (e.g. the Black Eyed Peas tune that got rinsed to death, This is Not a Tango, etc). Hence my comments earlier in the thread that pop hits don't even need to be remixed to make them suitable for salsa. So the 'salsa' remixes in this thread, and the fact that they are popular with some salsa dancers, don't surprise me a bit.

    Salsa dancing appeared because people wanted to dance to the music they enjoyed. Well the same thing happened with waltz, samba, tango etc - but I can't imagine many people who learn to dance ballroom do so because their favourite music is waltz, samba, tango etc. In fact I don't even think genuine examples of such types of music are played at ballroom events nowadays.

    Of course salsa is not ballroom, but salsa has become some sort of hybrid between what it used to be i.e. people with passion for the music, and a ballroom type scene where no one really cares about the music. On a regional level, the latter sentiment seems to predominate. In many ways it becomes a self-fulfilling cycle - for some reason it seems the phenomenon of salsa dancers who don't really like (or certainly have no passion for) salsa music is higher amongst instructors, and by de-Latinizing the music at their classes and events, they deter the people who are seeking some sort of Latin flavour from joining the scene.

    (In fact, even the fact that live music is so absent from the congress scene, as discussed elsewhere, relates to this issue.)

    A few years ago large numbers of dedicated salsa teachers defected to kizomba, which musically has little to no connection to salsa and mambo music. When you dance to a music you have no passion for, it's pretty easy to drop it.

    I've said all the above on this forum before, however as some of you have not been here for so long it's worth repeating.

    The good news I suppose is that there are still people out there who love classic salsa and mambo music, so maybe there is some sort of hope for the future.

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