Overplayed songs in your scene

Discussion in 'Just Dance' started by elanimal, Oct 28, 2016.

  1. elanimal

    elanimal Tumbao

    I see a lot of posts about overplayed songs. It's normally done in a hand-wavy way, and sometimes a song I've never heard earns the label. So, in the interest of clarity... share some songs you consider to be overplayed in your city. Also, what's the threshold from 'DJs signature song' to 'overplayed'? I'll start off with an obvious one, but the rarer the better.



    edit to the mods: not sure if this belongs in the "Just Dance" section, so, feel free to move.
     
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  2. UchimaSalsa

    UchimaSalsa Son Montuno

    Where are you from?
    I don't think I've ever heard this song before...o_O
     
  3. Tomm

    Tomm Tumbao


    At the "cuban" parties, Every Fucking Time, together with other Mayimbe Songs that sound the same

    Salsa Parties

    and La Gripe/Probecita
     
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  4. elanimal

    elanimal Tumbao

    Boston. I guess it wasn't that obvious then, jeje
     
  5. elanimal

    elanimal Tumbao

    Wow. My sincerest condolences.
     
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  6. cachondea

    cachondea Son



    Every time. Every single time. i've moved beyond annoyance or frustration. I have come to accept it. I'll dance to it with all the charity an agnostic can muster. i won't let it get to me. hearing it means: it's wednesday night and I've made it to the dancefloor. it's good. i won't let it get to me. I won't.

    more often than not, romeo santos joins usher to make it perfect...


    .. and i will once again and into all eternity have to sink into usher's embrace.
    no te voy a dejar sin mi amor. te prometo, papi! The dj will take care of that.
     
  7. elanimal

    elanimal Tumbao

    ^^^ lmao! that first one... I'm starting to think Boston is not bad, not bad at all. jajajajajajajaja

    The bachata you posted is overplayed here too.
     
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  8. Tomm

    Tomm Tumbao

    I do like the song :) I think its a good cover

    This bachata also gets a lot of playtime... I do like it :)
     
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  9. Dissonant Harmony

    Dissonant Harmony Rhythm Deputy

    At (most) Cuban nights:

    Almost everything - the "favored" DJs play the same 'bombastic', overpopular Timbas that for some reason, people happen to like.
    I have an hypothesis that those songs are so domimnant because:

    1) Those songs "became" the "epitome" of what categorized as "Cuban Salsa".

    -The ignorance is so ridiculous - If I as a DJ to play a Son/Guaracha/Guajjira/Cha/Mambo/Charanga he will either:

    a. Play it only at the, not to "scare" the audience.
    b. Say it doesn't fit "the line".
    c. Respond with: "Dude, that's an 'LA song'. Here we do 'cuban'"

    Due to marketing, habbits and ignorance, it's pretty much expected that a Cuban line will be limited to...very specific type of Cuban music.

    2) Since those lines focus on a very limited "taste" of music, it's obviously attracting those who really like it. (And deterring those who don't).

    3) Pavolivian Conditioning happens. I definitely do believe, that you can "program" a community to like some songs. (Especially if the community is made of people who like those styles of songs to begin with).

    So...
    -Label your line as one thing.
    -Build a community that comes for this type of music.
    -Find songs that suit what they come to there for very well + program people to be hyped over them.

    And baam - you create a "hit" song.
    Now, in those very...not diverse lines, with an audience of a very...not diverse taste,
    Sometimes I feel that there are way too many "hits". (And I usually dislike of a sick of most of them).

    What defines an overplayed song (Or differentiates it from a "signature") - I can't say for certain.
    But I know only 2 cuban lines that feel fresh, and all the rest, to me, are just packed with "overplayed" songs, that I am sick of hearing, and I didn't like them much in the first place.

    ---

    Salsa:

    Luckily, there are some very "strong" DJs here, and there are plenty of refreshing and interesting lines.

    The owner of the one closest to me, used to have 5 overplayed "floor-filler" songs (a horrible Michael Jackson cover, the mentioned 'Ain't no Sunshine', a Bailando cover and two overly-catchy ballads, which were nice in the first time, but became very annoying), and he tended to play at least 4 of them in the same night. Every single time. This was veeeeeeeeery very very annoying.
    That guy, by the way, is very knowledgeable, and has an immerse collection of music. He played the really good stuff only at the end of his parties. /:
    When I brought this up he understood me, but told me to notice how the floor gets packed when he plays that Bailando / MJ song, but honestly - I believe it's a "hit" people were "programmed" to like. (The same way the On2 here started getting overhyped when a DJ plays 'La Pachanga de don Juan' and a certain version of 'Para Cochero' after some very influentive dancers started spreading Pachanga. I like both songs, but I bet most people wouldn't have cared if they didn't see their friends jumping with joy as a response to the intros of those songs first).

    I kinda sat on his back though, and he started experimenting with the audience - mixing songs that would please the likes of me, alongside ones that would please the opposite types of auidnece, and it works. (+He stopped playing those cursed songs!)

    In addition, sometimes there is another guy DJing instead of him - and that other guy is awesome!


    Anyway, he doesn't DJ here often, anymore. (He got another one to do it - and that "another one" is awesome!)
     
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  10. Dissonant Harmony

    Dissonant Harmony Rhythm Deputy

    ....................What...the ****...

    -OK. Someone should bribe a DJ to play it here, and then bring out a camera just to film my reaction to it.

    *But first make sure to keep me away from guns, or knives, or ropes...or cyanide...or cliffs...
     
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  11. DJ Yuca

    DJ Yuca El Sabroso de Conguero

    I don't think like that - which is why I effectively discarded the salsa scene. A shame because I love to socialise and dance, but if I have to hear garbage like that . . . forget it.

    One thing I have noticed in this thread which chimes with my own experiences is that it's not just that these tunes get played, it's that they get played gig after gig after gig. Ime this is year after year after year. (Admittedly not with these tunes, but with their equivalents from the time when I was going to lessons and events.) Why do they get played and played and played? Simply because there aren't actually that many of these tunes around. It's not actually cheesy salsa / salsa hits e.g. Vivir mi vida, El preso, Llorarás etc etc, it's more tunes that are notable for their lack of Latin flavour i.e. R&B songs with a salsa beat in the background.

    Watching the 'best salsa dancers' showing more enthusiasm for tunes like this than they do for anything decent is very revealing. And makes it no surprise that the scene worldwide has declined so much recently.
     
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  12. DJ Yuca

    DJ Yuca El Sabroso de Conguero

    Of course there are DJs who don't play such garbage. And there are even a few promoters who are willing to give such DJs gigs. However ime the majority of salsa instructors prefer music of the type in this thread, and they are often DJs themselves and promoters.
     
  13. Sabrosura

    Sabrosura ¡WEPA!

    Hahaha, I like your attitude :)

    Though you have to publicly name the "DJ" who plays that first song over and over so we can send him a petition to stop insulting salsa music (or maybe an "anonymous" link to this thread :p ). Seriously, if I was in that scene I'd (nicely at first, then not so nicely :p ) tell him that playing that song at a salsa night is called "ear poisoning". :p

    As for the second one, the Usher bachata, I've developed an allergy to it. I actually like Romeo's/Aventura's other songs, especially the older ones, but this song is the epitome of boring sensual bachata to me.
     
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  14. MAMBO_CEC

    MAMBO_CEC Sabor Ambassador

    Argggggggh... Thing is though I remember when it was first played everyone was blowing through the breaks....now you can hear a pin drop when they happen. Peeps love it.
     
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  15. elanimal

    elanimal Tumbao

    @cachondea be like

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    No one is beating her post on most horrible overplayed song. I'll continue to contribute, though. There's always second place.

    @MAMBO_CEC that one has made the rounds in Boston, and reminded me of this one:



    Hong Kong Mambo might have the dubious distinction of first song I purposely sat out because I couldn't stand from the very beginning. And they loved to play it here, not only in the regular Friday nights, but in socials. Thankfully, it has been phased out.
     
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  16. Sabrosura

    Sabrosura ¡WEPA!

    Lol, definitely overplayed in NY too. Not a fan of it. Though those breaks are fun to hit :)
     
  17. Sabrosura

    Sabrosura ¡WEPA!

    Not a fan of it either, I tend to dislike vibes-heavy songs. But I love those saxophone hits in this one, they kind of make the vibes easier to deal with.
     
  18. Dissonant Harmony

    Dissonant Harmony Rhythm Deputy

    *Fighting over second place*.



    -There is a chance this song gets ok-ish later. I don't know though.
    Never had the courage the go beyond 20 secs.

    Edit: Ok, I cheated.
    No one is evil enough to oveplay this monster of a thing.
     
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  19. lidiap

    lidiap Descarga

    Wow, seriously? Of course, we’re all entitled to our preferences, but this diss kinda sounds sacrilegious to me. This song is a true classic, in the best sense, and one of the most crucial pieces Tito Puente composed. I’m surprised it was ever over-played, I think many DJs tend to stay away from Latin jazz. I’d love to hear it played more!
     
  20. DJ Yuca

    DJ Yuca El Sabroso de Conguero

    Huh? Over the years I have already listed, on several occasions, the dire tunes that got rinsed to death, and rinsed some more, back when I used to go to salsa events. I will list them again but it's quite harrowing for me, so I'll leave it for another day.
    To even mention TP in a thread like this makes no sense to me whatsoever.
     
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