marketing On2 while making fun of On1

Discussion in 'Just Dance' started by granrey, Nov 12, 2017.

  1. Offbeat

    Offbeat Maestro 'Fania' Pacheco

    Shouldn't that depend on the music :) Some timba music is so strong, that it feels completely out of place to dance on1 or on2 to it. I rather sit out than try to dance slot/linear to music that is simply not suitable for it. There are some salsa songs to which dancing Cuban just seems out of place.

    If I were a follower my response to that question would be a counter question - "what does music want you to dance?" :)
     
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  2. Marisha

    Marisha Descarga

    Yes, you are right. Some songs are more suitable for Cuban while others can be better interpreted through crossboby. I all the time think about it.:)
    You do not need to sit if you learn a new style;)
     
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  3. Marisha

    Marisha Descarga

    A dancer dances Cross body with one follower, and in the next video he dances Cuban:)

     
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  4. DJ Yuca

    DJ Yuca El Sabroso de Conguero

    Yes. It's great for a lead to want to please the follower - but when that is their only priority then the concept of dancing to the music becomes discarded.
     
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  5. Offbeat

    Offbeat Maestro 'Fania' Pacheco

    That's what the WCS and Tango are for :D
     
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  6. DJ Yuca

    DJ Yuca El Sabroso de Conguero

    I agree but please, on 1 and on 2 are timings, both of which exist in casino as well as in the linear styles.
     
  7. Offbeat

    Offbeat Maestro 'Fania' Pacheco

    Yes, true, but I think here the shorthand was for the style preference. Imagine if Marisha's reply to that lead would have been I prefer Cuban style contra tiempo :) or on2 but with LA style :D :D
     
  8. Marisha

    Marisha Descarga

    It is not about pleasing someone...I just do not understand why you make it so complicated. It is about fun and an open mind for something new. Salsa music is something that unites us, so this is the most important thing. The more tools you have to play with music the better because it gives you the new opportunity. For me, every "style" has their unique flavor...and the more I dance, the more I love salsa because I have more than just one way to work with the music.
     
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  9. Marisha

    Marisha Descarga

    :troll::troll:
     
  10. Offbeat

    Offbeat Maestro 'Fania' Pacheco

    Because as every man knows it is not simple to please a lady :p

    p.s. please note 'a lady' and not 'the lady'

    *ducks for cover*
     
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  11. DJ Yuca

    DJ Yuca El Sabroso de Conguero

    Sounds like a good response to me.
     
  12. DJ Yuca

    DJ Yuca El Sabroso de Conguero

    Surely asking a follow which of 3 styles they want to dance is making things complicated?
     
  13. MrR

    MrR Son Montuno

    If you see the dances more flexible it is very well possible to dance to any music with the moves set of either Cuban or Linear styles. But well, you gotta expand the borders further than most teachers teach.

    I tend to interpret it as "different music is suited for different kinds of communicative tension" and the standard setup of Cuban, LA and NY have different standard settings. In some scenes these settings are extremely narrow, in others they are broader. After I discarded these standard settings my dancing became much more creative and I am capable of having great dances with anyone but the most dogmatic dancers.

    Dancers who never really came across the concept of personalizing the styles often are either shocked or amazed by that but few are indifferent. Creativity isn't welcome everywhere in the dancing world.
     
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  14. Marisha

    Marisha Descarga

    What do you mean by creativity in dancing? I just want to be sure we talk about the same thing. I am asking because people have a different understanding of this concept.
     
  15. vit

    vit El Sabroso de Conguero

    They usually dance only 1 style, and even in rare situations when they dance more than one, they prefer one of them. And within that, they prefer whether on1 (if they don't dance on2) or on2 (if they do, which however shows that they are more advanced than other followers) :p
     
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  16. Offbeat

    Offbeat Maestro 'Fania' Pacheco

    There is creativity and creativity. Partner dancing is an 'active' conversation between two people than say abstract painting or contemporary dancing. You can't apply same standards of creativity.

    In partner dancing, I feel that while creativity is definitely a good ingredient to have, it needs to be bounded by the music and the partner you are with. Otherwise it can end up like having a one way dialogue (that no one else understands)
     
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  17. Offbeat

    Offbeat Maestro 'Fania' Pacheco

    To me it's simple - me leader, you follower You follow my style :D

    P.S. for those prone to literal interpretation, said in jest
     
  18. Marisha

    Marisha Descarga

    yes...absolutely. I also love creativity, but there are also fundamental things that we have to respect as we respect the music. Fundamental basic frames our creativity.
    Sorry guys but again Edie...
     
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  19. Smejmoon

    Smejmoon El Sabroso de Conguero

    Diego for sure got a lot of attention in that fest. It's like 3rd video you posted today? I really hope this is not happening in Minsk, lol. I hate when my friends are so popular.
     
  20. Marisha

    Marisha Descarga

    I just wanted to illustrate that it is absolutely ok for both followers and leaders to dance NY, LA, Casino, and switch. It is also ok not to dance...But the important thing is if you do not like something it does not make this thing bad, perhaps you just do not know it well. And if you try at least... maybe you will like it.
    ***
    Honestly, I do not know him at all; I found his videos by accident.:)
     

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