Differences between Cuban Salsa and Casino on the dance floor

Discussion in 'Just Dance' started by TomSchueler, Jan 28, 2017.

  1. Marcos

    Marcos Son Montuno

    They do refer to Cuban sandwiches as "sandwich Cubano", so I could imagine an infinitesimal probability they would call it that. My only point of reference for Cuban dances being taught far outside of Cuban and Hispanic communities where terms are generated by non-Hispanic dance instructors to describe to their non-Hispanic students how Hispanics dance, all come from history books such as Ned Sublette's, hence I framed my question the way I did.

    What's interesting is that Terence appears to be on that end (taking an educated guess here), where he learned these dances in the absence of Latinos, and so distanced from that original non-Latino who came up with that term that he doesn't realize that Latinos who are born and raised in Latinamerica don't use it among themselves, and he has a hard time explaining to us.

    For everyone's info, the caviat "born and raised in Latinamerica" is a proper an inoffensive one to use when talking to Latinos, since people such as my US born cousins are just as culturally integrated as US born children of Germans, Russians, or Italians (I always asked these folks to produce their passports to prove to me they were actually Germans, Russians, or Italians).
  2. terence

    terence Maestro 'Descarga' Cachao

    You could not be farther from the truth !..ALL my latin ( dating back from the 50s ) was really learned ( dance wise ) from my latino amigos , mainly PR, and later on from Cubanos , in nite clubs. I abandoned my BR version socially speaking but had to retain that style for teaching purposes whilst working for studios.

    Independantly. I NEVER taught that style and to this day still not . My social style in BR is all of the American variety which I teach here in the UK, and my latin is all of an indigenous nature..

    I actually got invited to one of my Soc. Prof. congresses in the UK to do a lecture and demo on the Amer. style BR. It was taken on board by other studios, so I am told. I WISH it had been the latin !!

    As to explanations, I can get as technical as you wish but not really on a forum , as the nuance of teaching is absent. And, HOW does one teach "feeling " ?.
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2017
  3. Marcos

    Marcos Son Montuno

    OK, let me re-phrase. Did you learn that one specific term "Cuban Motion", from a Cuban, another Hispanic, or a non-Hispanic? And if that person was a non-Hispanic, did they themselves learn it from a Hispanic?

    Feeling describes something that has a technical meaning in the end. Whether you're talking about nerve impulses, dopamine responses, cornea stimulation, etc. The key is in figuring out how that feeling emerged and explain that, or the layperson's version of it. Of course, while you were learning in the 50s these facts were not so well disseminated amongst laypeople, and even today too many people watch more Kardashians than Neil Degrasse Tyson.

    Scientists have even technically mapped out the brain activity that causes the feelings devout religious people feel when they attend services.
  4. terence

    terence Maestro 'Descarga' Cachao

    I never implied that was the case. I was speaking primarily about usage in " dance ".

    terminology in dance is there for a reason, where their origins arose from is inconsequential as they do serve a purpose of uniformity. Ironically, the word pays homage to the genre .And does it really matter where it originated ? or do you find it offensive ? and if so, why ?.. Or are we into polemics ?..

    Feelings, to my way of thinking is an abstract that words do not express when applied to specific actions in dance. If you are capable of this then more power to you ...
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  5. Marcos

    Marcos Son Montuno

    I'm not offended, I'm curious. I personally find it pays better homage to use the terminology that came from within the genre by its creators. It seems very peculiar to pay homage to anyone by failing to use the terms they came up with. In some cases like the previously mentioned Sandwich Cubano, or the Mayorca pastry and Plato Paisa that's the actual name of the thing. I was trying to discern if that was the case with what you referred to as Cuban Motion, which you should have caught onto as I specifically brought up the Sandwich Cubano as an example.

    Are you familiar with the Sandwich Cubano? It's even sold with that name in Puerto Rico in the absence of Cubans.

    When I find out what Cubans themselves call it, that's what I'll call it to pay homage to them.
  6. manzanadulce

    manzanadulce Sonero

    @Dissonant Harmony 13x?? damn u need a higher salary or a cheaper teacher. :p

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