Differences between Cuban Salsa and Casino on the dance floor

Discussion in 'Just Dance' started by TomSchueler, Jan 28, 2017.

  1. sunsoul

    sunsoul Shine Officer

    I think we can allow some corrections from Terence and his ideas and points certainly come from the heart and an awful lot of passion..!
     
  2. Marcos

    Marcos Son Montuno

    Salsa dancing is an obsessive person's hobby. A great deal of people are used to casual hobbies and only after taking a few classes realize just how complex and hard it is. Many have secondary reasons why they pick up Salsa dancing, such as an association with Hispanics like getting invited to their Hispanic BFF's wedding or wanting to date/hook up with Hispanics.

    Obsessive hobbies generally:
    A: Have great depth and skill requirement, often requires many lessons or training to even accomplish at a basic level. Greatness is on you always.
    B: Most noobs will suck and must power through a phase of sucking without getting frustrated.
    C: Few people outside of the hobby community want to hear about how you spend hours, days, months practicing to get better.

    Casual hobbies generally:
    A: Easy to broach and discuss the topic with a more general audience
    B: Simple mechanics, easy to pull new people without much practice.
    C: In competitive casual hobbies there is lower control of the mechanics and more chance. Poor performance can be blamed on the chance.

    My other hobby is video games, also an obsessive person's hobby. My wife doesn't understand why I can keep playing the same strategy or fighting game for hundreds of hours.
     
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  3. terence

    terence Maestro 'Descarga' Cachao

    This applies to ALL the genres in which I teach. The antidote for this is to simplify lessons and make them FUN..

    I know Pros who pound CM on 1st lesson :)eek:) .
     
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  4. Marcos

    Marcos Son Montuno

    What is CM? The most complicated a first lesson should have is cross body lead and right turn. The better teachers usually break down the movements and slow them down more than try to show off. I'm doing a Yosakoi dance and I think we've taken longer to learn our routine because our instructor didn't do that.

    My worst learning experience, trying to learn new moves when the instructor was teaching in Japanese. Main reason I stayed was to socialize and practice, when I consider they directed me to Fukuoka's Latin dance community where I met my wife, I think it was money well spent.
     
  5. vit

    vit El Sabroso de Conguero

    On 1st kizomba class that I attended we did BM :)
     
  6. terence

    terence Maestro 'Descarga' Cachao

    Cuban Motion
     
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  7. terence

    terence Maestro 'Descarga' Cachao

    o_O...

    As you well know, there are basic teaching formats which any " trained " Prof will know and if it aint simple, DONT teach it !
     
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  8. vit

    vit El Sabroso de Conguero

    Well, teaching people how to walk in particular genre actually isn't bad idea (avoiding however visual effects of CM, BM, XM ... in upper parts of the body) ... problem was just that the teacher didn't know how to do it, so it ended up like teaching some kind of stepping with bodywaves, so all people here end up dancing K that way ...
     
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  9. Dissonant Harmony

    Dissonant Harmony Rhythm Deputy

    Not all students are the same (or perhaps more that that - every student Is different),

    -When I want a simplified and fun lesson - I go to a social. (Which offers "free" classes, inclided in the entry fee, prior to the party).

    -If I want a deeper understanding of the dance - I may join a course.

    -But when I go to the place of a specific
    professional, and pay x13 my hourly salary for a 45 min private - it's because I'm interested in those complicated details, and am aware of the fact that becoming really good is not always an easy, or a fun process...

    And if said professional "goes easy on me" and spares me the complicated technical stuff, just so I may have more fun - then he clearly doesn't understand what I came to spend my money, time and effort on...
     
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  10. terence

    terence Maestro 'Descarga' Cachao

    Yes they are, and I tailor my private lessons to their personality and needs, even so , a little levity is always good to relax the student.

    My initial comment was aimed at class work which requires a different approach than the private lesson .. .I seldom do in depth teaching in class work .
     
  11. Marcos

    Marcos Son Montuno

    Never heard of the term before.

    What do Latinamerica born and raised Cubans who are teaching Casino to other Latinamerica born and raised Latinos such as myself call it?

    And I'll guess BM is short for Body Motion, another mystery term for me.
     
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  12. terence

    terence Maestro 'Descarga' Cachao

    Dance terms are usually descriptive and they pretty much all, are long established.

    If you have never heard the term before, then you obviously have not read the numerous articles on the site discussing its application. Briefly, It's meant to reflect how"cubanos" move their hips whilst dancing.

    Most of the latinos I know learned by copying their parents/siblings etc , so no definitive name was necessary .
     
  13. Marcos

    Marcos Son Montuno

    If I didn't know the term existed I obviously have never been to the site that discusses its application. Could you please provide a link?

    The only body movement terms I ever remember Cubans use regarding hips and waist was 8888.
     
  14. terence

    terence Maestro 'Descarga' Cachao

    It is somewhere on this forum.. someone will know exactly where .
     
  15. timberamayor

    timberamayor Maestro 'El Diferente' Canales

    Cubans don't use the term :) Non-Cubans do.
     
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  16. terence

    terence Maestro 'Descarga' Cachao

    If one were Cuban then the term would be redundant..:D
     
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  17. timberamayor

    timberamayor Maestro 'El Diferente' Canales

    they just say "MM" my motion LOL
     
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  18. terence

    terence Maestro 'Descarga' Cachao


    Works for me..
     
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  19. Live2dance

    Live2dance Shine Officer

    :rofl:
     
  20. Live2dance

    Live2dance Shine Officer

    Hmm Merengue!
     

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