Everybody please agree with live2troll that cimbianrengue and his p2 are the best way to dance cause that's what he is trying to prove since a long time ago.. Then end this discussion pleeease!! It makes no difference to us ladies if you r dancing one way or the other and remember, its ALL about the ladies! About Joel he is such a nice guy. I never took his classes but danced with him a few times in Ny! He is now doing one video about salsa tips for day and I saw a few and they are interesting! Better discuss those videos than about what name do you wanna call a break! IT'S ALL ON2 !!!!