changing taste in music

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nowhiteshoes

Son
ive found my musical tastes changing more over the last 3 months than previously (taste develops as we listen to more music - this has been talked about before).

my taste seems to have gone:

salsa unknown/generic!

then: early mambo (1950's/60's), more percussion-based, then descarga, followed by latin jazz (i never thought id like this type of music!)

though i will be gob smacked if i ever start liking charanga

anyone have any styles they used to hate that they now love.
 
Yes.
I, too started out with generic salsa.
Cuban friends introduced me to timba.
After seeing the BVSC movie, I bought the traditional Son CDs and a very major thing happened:
I started to like Jazz.

I think Jazz is the king of all music as it has opened up the universe. I now like in no specific order: timba, son, salsa dura, traditional cumbia, afro-cuban (rumba, yoruba, abakua), west african highlife, traditional west african, roma (gypsy) brass bands, bulgarian folk, classical and probably many others that I can't think of right now.

Its mostly not dance music in a salsa sense though, but thats ok as I hear the music very differently if I am dancing to it vs. listening to it. (that is a subject of multiple threads here).
 
My introduction to salsa was a few cassette tapes that a co-worker gave me, after I unsuccessfully tried to impress her with my ability to speak Spanish and sing a few Mexican songs. She told me that Mexican music was not her thing and later brought me the cassettes. After listening to the cassettes, I fell instantly in love with salsa. The salsa on the cassettes was mostly very commercial, salsa romántica: Eddie Santiago, etcetera; with a few classic tunes.

Later, I started frequenting a Puerto Rican bar that, of course, had commercial salsa in the juke box. So, commerical salsa, was my initial paradigm, and I loved it! I continued to love commercial salsa for many years, culminating with the market representation of a professional Latin music pool; which, of course, gave me more commercial salsa. I loved commerical salsa so much, that I hated it when I went to a club and heard a dj playing classic salsa. I'm sure that I've mentioned before that it just sounded like old sh@t to me!

Finally, after a friend hooked me up with THE classic salsa music label and I started getting classic salsa, I was at first only mildly excited. However, after I really started listening to classic salsa, my taste begin to move rapidly to it. This happened despite the fact that I was still receiving the new commercial salsa. I actually reached a point where I hardly listened to the commercial salsa anymore. I now have to force myself to listen to it, trying to find something that I can play on the radio shows.

So yes, tastes in music, just like the music itself, evolves. A lot just depends on exposure.
 
For some time I did not like timba, because I could dance LA only.
For some time I did not like danceable latin jazz, because I could not dance NY.
Now, I love salsa dura most and dance mostly NY :-)
 
When I started out dancing, I mostly prefered commerical salsa ('pop salsa'). But after I started going to congresses and therefor be exposed to other music, my music taste started change. I started to like more 'salsa dura'. And after I listened more to this music at home, I'm now really enjoying classic salsa and mambo and rather dislike commercial salsa.

Lately I've started to discover annd appreciate LatinJazz as well. So I might someday even like some Jazz as well.

And I like Charanga, it's great to listen and dance to as well. I'ld suggest to listen to Son Sublime as are the reason why I started to like Charanga as well. :)
 
It's been pretty much same progression for me nws. The only difference is that I like Charanga and used to listen to Jazz and percussive music before learning how to dance.
 
chrisk said:
When I started out dancing, I mostly prefered commerical salsa ('pop salsa'). But after I started going to congresses and therefor be exposed to other music, my music taste started change. I started to like more 'salsa dura'. And after I listened more to this music at home, I'm now really enjoying classic salsa and mambo and rather dislike commercial salsa.

Lately I've started to discover annd appreciate LatinJazz as well. So I might someday even like some Jazz as well.

And I like Charanga, it's great to listen and dance to as well. I'ld suggest to listen to Son Sublime as are the reason why I started to like Charanga as well. :)
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i liked some of that (ill download some next emusic downloads refresh), maybe its certain types of charanga i dont like. i like the flute (ive been a manny oquendo fan for some time) but sem to have a dislike for the violin in songs where its dominant.

i only recently started to like garage-salsa 9ie the salsa that gets played at some congresses where its like a cross between salsa and garage music.
 
nowhiteshoes said:
i liked some of that (ill download some next emusic downloads refresh), maybe its certain types of charanga i dont like. i like the flute (ive been a manny oquendo fan for some time) but sem to have a dislike for the violin in songs where its dominant.
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Well, maybe some day you start to appreciate that kind of charanga as well? Just like you some day started to appreciate the old stuff.


nowhiteshoes said:
i only recently started to like garage-salsa 9ie the salsa that gets played at some congresses where its like a cross between salsa and garage music.
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Hm, altough I've been to some congresses, I've no idea what you mean with garaga-salsa. Is there somewhere an example available?
 
chrisk said:
Well, maybe some day you start to appreciate that kind of charanga as well? Just like you some day started to appreciate the old stuff.




Hm, altough I've been to some congresses, I've no idea what you mean with garaga-salsa. Is there somewhere an example available?
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Glad you asked, Chrisk. I also was wondering what "garage salsa" is.
 
chrisk said:
Well, maybe some day you start to appreciate that kind of charanga as well? Just like you some day started to appreciate the old stuff.




Hm, altough I've been to some congresses, I've no idea what you mean with garaga-salsa. Is there somewhere an example available?
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ill have a look then post, hopefully explaining what i mean
 
I Love the cuban music and i dont was very intresting in Salsa from Puerto Rico. But at the moment I listen a lot from puerto rico.
 
not sure if this is relevant but the taste of a salsero changes/matures as he/she:

- gains more experience in the dance
- gains more exposure in the dance
- gains more exposure to the various flavours of the dance

a trend i noticed hereabouts in asia, where the scene is younger, seems to be the development of salsa music taste along the following lines:

1. Cuban and/or Commercial Salsa (Marc Anthony, Gloria Estefan etc)
2. More Romantica type salsa (Eddie Santiago etc)
3. Salsa Dura (Sonora Carruseles, Fruko etc)
4. Classics and/or Latin Jazz (Joe Cuba, Cachao etc)

this in turn reflects the change in scenes hereabouts from Cuban style -> LA style -> NY Style or NY-influenced On1 Style


j
 
My taste...salsa dura, salsa classics (Eddie palmieri, Ismael Rivera)
of course I love Afro Cuban (rumba, yoruba, abakua).

Yes I believe that as a person gets more involved and exposed with a certain genre, the taste becomes more in sync(?) / like "fine tuning" - in harmony as to how the person feeeeeels with the music. My personal opinion.
 
jayzen said:
not sure if this is relevant but the taste of a salsero changes/matures as he/she:

- gains more experience in the dance
- gains more exposure in the dance
- gains more exposure to the various flavours of the dance

a trend i noticed hereabouts in asia, where the scene is younger, seems to be the development of salsa music taste along the following lines:

1. Cuban and/or Commercial Salsa (Marc Anthony, Gloria Estefan etc)
2. More Romantica type salsa (Eddie Santiago etc)
3. Salsa Dura (Sonora Carruseles, Fruko etc)
4. Classics and/or Latin Jazz (Joe Cuba, Cachao etc)

this in turn reflects the change in scenes hereabouts from Cuban style -> LA style -> NY Style or NY-influenced On1 Style


j
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I can see where you're coming from, in what you've stated.....but we can't limit ourselves to only see the dancer's aspect as to why our tastes develop over time - - although that does tend to be a big part of the appeal.

I also think that as people get exposed to various cultural ties to the music, the taste for different sounds grows (simple example: maybe you attend a party with a bunch of Dominicans who are friendly as hell - - and they throw in a bunch of merengue ripiao for you to dance to - - and you become enthused about that raw sound)....

...as it does when you start understanding the history behind different sounds or specific songs, too (an example: you are on your first visit to NYC and you're strolling through the streets and you see a "guapo" with a hat, a gold tooth wearing sunglasses crossing the street with his hands in his pockets .......and you get a sudden flashback to the words Mr. Ruben Blades layed out for us in Pedro Navaja way back when)

Then there's the musical aspect where you start discovering how the different players did their thing with their music( an example: you're an instrumentalist and love instrument solos..........and you now start seaking music with piano, timbal, conga, whatever....solos....and you become a timbal fanatic....obviously, listening to Jerry Rivera isn't gonna give it to you. On the other hand....if you like sweet melodies and such....Jerry is the man.......it's all in personal taste, I reckon)

Then there's availability of music too...........if you go to the store to buy a cd/lp/tape.....or even jump on-line - - first thing you'll find is a Marc Anthony or Rey Ruiz album. But as you start digging deeper and deeper.....the only way to go is back in time....hehehe......

ok....I think I'll stop....I think I forgot my point.......hmmm....let me think of one:

In conclusion....eh...music I didn't like before and now do: salsa in general hehehe for all reasons mentioned above....and then some
 
To me "garage salsa" is really just raw, under-produced, independent label, not-slick salsa dura (like Brooklyn Sounds for example). Sometimes the instruments are out of tune a bit and to me that can add to the appeal (although when the singer is out of tune and is yelling the whole song it puts me off a bit). This raw, free-wheeling sound is very appealing to me and has a crackly and energy all its own. Early Willie/Hector has that same feel to me. Many bands recorded these "garage" albums in NY, PR, DR, Venezuela, Colombia, etc....

Hope this helps,

DJ Nik

El Caobo said:
Glad you asked, Chrisk. I also was wondering what "garage salsa" is.
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I meant to say "crackle" not "crackly".

djnik2003 said:
To me "garage salsa" is really just raw, under-produced, independent label, not-slick salsa dura (like Brooklyn Sounds for example). Sometimes the instruments are out of tune a bit and to me that can add to the appeal (although when the singer is out of tune and is yelling the whole song it puts me off a bit). This raw, free-wheeling sound is very appealing to me and has a crackly and energy all its own. Early Willie/Hector has that same feel to me. Many bands recorded these "garage" albums in NY, PR, DR, Venezuela, Colombia, etc....

Hope this helps,

DJ Nik
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djnik2003 said:
To me "garage salsa" is really just raw, under-produced, independent label, not-slick salsa dura (like Brooklyn Sounds for example). Sometimes the instruments are out of tune a bit and to me that can add to the appeal (although when the singer is out of tune and is yelling the whole song it puts me off a bit). This raw, free-wheeling sound is very appealing to me and has a crackly and energy all its own. Early Willie/Hector has that same feel to me. Many bands recorded these "garage" albums in NY, PR, DR, Venezuela, Colombia, etc....

Hope this helps,

DJ Nik
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something like Angel Canales??!!!
 
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